How To Find Success With Elance

by Guest Writer on May 27, 2008 · 12 comments

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Today, I’m happy to welcome Kerrie Spencer as a guest blogger. I’ve worked with Kerrie for a couple of years, and lately she’s been finding success with Elance, something that has eluded me despite success on other bidding sites. I asked her to share her secrets.

I’ve talked to a lot of writers who have nothing but bad experiences with Elance. This isn’t to say there aren’t bad things that happen, but if you know how to use the system, you can make it work FOR you rather than against you.

Getting Personal With Bidding

The main key to landing bids is how you place your bid! DUH! No seriously, bids should not be approached in a pro forma way, but in a personal way. And for heaven’s sake, use the Private Message Board (PMB) to pitch the potential client. Otherwise all and sundry (read your competition) will know what you said to land the bid.

The personal touch means talking to the person like they are – well – a person and not a client. Even if it means addressing them by their sometimes hilarious nicknames (we won’t go there!) just do it.

For instance if the nickname is a company name, just use it in your pitch. Talk to them like they were across the kitchen table from you swilling coffee. The people behind the call for bids appreciate being spoken to in a personal way. It also shows them you are approachable and know enough about human nature to take the time to personalize your bid.

When you join Elance, one of the first things they tell you is to personalize your bid. Would that more people would listen to that. I’ve read some really atrocious, stilted bids that came across like a bad infomercial. Fake even, more’s the pity. Clients aren’t so stupid that they can’t tell when the bid they get is thrown together.

Perseverance

Never underestimate the power of your bid. No, you won’t get everything you bid on for a variety of reasons: from your bid may be too high, to the client wanted someone with different expertise than you have. That happens. Just keep on bidding.

It takes awhile to get a following built up on Elance, so be prepared to work really hard for a long time. Choose categories you know you can write in and can prove it. Don’t try and wing it or that will show up on your feedback and take your percentage down.

Hidden Penalties

Having said that though, be aware that the price of the project you work on has as much to do with your feedback score as does the actual feedback received from client. More actually. If you work on a $50 project and get super feedback it actually lowers your ratings because the project amount wasn’t very high. Sucks doesn’t it? You bet it does, it means you’re being penalized for working for smaller amounts.

Don’t get me wrong, the Elance system can be your best friend if you work with it to the best of your ability. It has its glitches; for instance you can’t bid less than $50 on a job and there are jobs posted for less than that. You need to be creative to figure out the way to work the system.

Working with escrow bids is another whole can of worms that makes you rip your hair out by the roots. It’s designed to protect the buyer and the writer, but figuring out the milestones, changing terms of the business agreement, and funding milestones becomes a bit like a treasure hunt – one where you don’t always find the prize.

Paying The Price

Be aware too that Elance will charge you a fee between 6.75 percent and 8.75 percent when your project is completed. That is a percentage based on the cost of your project. This seems to be the reason why a great number of freelancers eventually opt to deal with their clients directly and vice versa.

While it makes sense for them to charge a fee, it can certainly cut into the bottom line unless your bottom line runs into the thousands of dollars. When you’re writing and doing it on your own, thousands of dollars takes a long time to become a reality.

Bottom line is? Elance is a good system that has it moments of inexplicable idiocy, but it’s better than anything else out there. Just remember to be personal. It will win you more business, and with some luck good friends who will give you repeat business.

For more information or to just drop by and say hello, Kerrie Spencer can be found hanging out on Elance or Spiritwriters. Feel free to email her on kspencer [at] sasktel [dot] net.

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{ 12 comments }

Marcel Breault August 11, 2008 at 02:19

Thank you, that was helpful to read being I’m just starting to break into the writing business.

Kennedy August 19, 2008 at 03:50

thank you Kerrie, I do hope to land on a bid one day. I am one week old on Elance with the $9.95 membership plan. I am from Kenya and very good in web and graphic design. I have posted 16 proposals since I joined and havent landed any yet. A few have gone to providers for $50. I even wonder what the ‘heck’ the bid was for if the buyer wanted professional work. I haven’t posted my portfolio and as yet no one knows really what I am capable of. Without any ratings so far and having exhausted my 20 connects, I am not sure if I will land on any one the closed bids. Yes, I did try to select buyers who have shown activity in the past. Could you tell me how to change my game plan? I need to offer my talent in return for a living.thank you.

Michelle September 15, 2008 at 19:11

Hi, I tried the paid membership on elance for a while. I was awarded a bid for which I was supposed to be paid $50. After I delivered, the company didn’t pay me. I ended up owing elance a percentage of that $50 I was never paid. No matter how many emails I sent regarding this, my account was frozen until I paid the money. Now I have a free membership – until they prove to me that some problems have been taken care of, I don’t want to pay them.

Sharon
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September 16, 2008 at 15:27

Sounds like a wise move, Michelle.

Lisa T. October 21, 2008 at 21:04

Great idea, Michelle.

I tried Guru for a while, but both G. and Elance have a lot of folks willing to work for peanuts, unfortunately.

Since I can’t eat my clips, I work my social network constantly. It’s hard to trust even the people I have personal contact with, much less the bizarros who are often online.

I’d advise you to read some of Sharon’s columns on social networking on the Web, too. Digg, Facebook and the others will drive traffic to your Web site.

Lisa T.’s last blog post..Where’s the humor?

Pothi November 4, 2009 at 16:22

Kerrie views are still correct (even after a year). It's all about how one sells himself/herself to get an assignment that pays well.

Kristi Patrice Carter February 2, 2010 at 12:38

This is really an informative article and I truly believe that if one were to follow Kerrie’s advice that they would be successful too. As for me, I have been using Elance, the leading marketplace for online talent, for over 10 years and it is still one of my favorite ways to get new clients. Not only is the monthly membership price economical but the quality of projects is quite high – that is, if you know how to work the system.

Here are some additional tips for your readers-

1. Only submit proposals on projects that you can do well and always put forth that extra effort to exceed expectations.

2. Scrutinize buyers carefully and only chose those buyers that have a proven reputation of paying freelancers.

3. Steer clear of projects from buyers with a history of not selecting a provider. Elance makes this easy with their red star system that clearly identifies those buyers that consistently don’t award posted projects.

4. Always require at least 50% down and the balance upon project completion.

5. Don’t lower your standards and know your worth.

Good luck!

Sharon Hurley Hall
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February 5, 2010 at 11:38

Great tips, Kristi. Thanks for sharing. I’m sure these will help readers get even more from the Elance experience.

Blessie A. February 4, 2010 at 06:58

After waiting for a month, I’ve just had my first assignment with Elance (hooray for me!) and it seemed pleasand enough.

I can’t see the feedback the buyer left for me, though. The point is there on my page, but no comments, no numbers, no nothing.

I left a comment for the buyer too, but couldn’t seem to find it in her page either.

I don’t know if there’s a lag, or if really doesn’t show. Either way, it’s something in the system that could use improving.
.-= Blessie A.´s last blog ..For mothers who like to write: royalties! (a.k.a. extra cash you don’t have to share with your husband) =-.

Sharon Hurley Hall
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February 5, 2010 at 11:42

With some systems it can take a while for ratings to show up, Blessie. I know it’s that way on Rentacoder.

James Schipper
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February 5, 2010 at 15:24

Thanks for the tips. I haven’t taken a run at any of these bidding sites yet, but I do intend to do so. Having information like this ahead of time is far better than just stumbling through them blind.
.-= James Schipper´s last blog ..Career Outsourcing: Replaced by the Lowest Bidder =-.

Ari September 7, 2010 at 05:31

Thanks for the tip. We’re also in the outsourcing business and have started working on Elance. We could not trust the system entirely from the beginning, and started sending some bids with our own page attached to them with the hope there would be more attraction. We’ve had some success that way receiving a higher conversion ratio in our website for Meetai, still though way below offering our own Services (Web design and development included) directly to our current clients.

There’s a lot of demand of hard work with very low pay rates in these sites. We’ll keep on trying though :)

Best of luck,
Ari

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